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New Episode: Off the Clock Podcast

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 min read

In this new episode, special guest Michael Pierson, Co-Founder of Pierson Ferdinand LLP, joins hosts Keith Maziarek and Justin Ergler for a thought-provoking conversation on how AI, new business models, and changing client expectations are redefining the future of law firms.


The discussion explores what it took to launch the largest law firm startup in U.S. history and why Pierson Ferdinand was intentionally designed around an AI-native delivery model rather than the traditional leverage model. Michael shares how the firm is rethinking the role of associates, embedding AI into legal service delivery, and building a culture centered on collaboration, accountability, and delivering measurable value to clients.


They also examine the broader implications of AI for the legal profession, including how firms will develop future talent, the commercial forces reshaping legal services, and whether technology will fundamentally change the economics of law firm growth. Don't miss this engaging conversation on what it means to build a law firm for the next generation of legal practice.




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